#2 Re: Dispute in Unit - Need Your Suggestion #2

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Re: DISPUTE IN UNIT - NEED YOUR SUGGESTION

~ Responses Part 2 ~

Note: A link to the first two letters on this topic has been appended below.

Namaskar,
Recently, one unit  was embroiled in a debate about whether to lead an akhanda kiirtan program for the inauguration of a slaughterhouse. Some in that unit documented their concerns and made an appeal for help. That posting was titled, "Dispute in Unit - Need Your Suggestion."

Thereafter, many letters were received from margiis from around the globe.

Here is a small yet representative sampling of responses that oppose the notion of doing kiirtan at the slaughterhouse inauguration.

In Him,
Paresh
Moderators


Here is response #1:

Namaskar, i think to have a meeting  and inform Mr. Kareem politely about our stand point. I feel, even we go and just have food, its not right. Its like we are supporting his slaughtering work.

I have a experience before, one Dada not attending the Margi wedding in temple. When i ask why, he say: If i attend this wedding its like im supporting temple worship.

So, i find it not right. Thanks, Namaskar

rgds
~gowri~


Here is response #2:


Namaskar All,

(1) In AM philosophy, we have been taught to love and respect every creature's life as our own with mind ,word and deed. So, it is not advisable to support such an act which is intended to snatch any one's life for the sake of business and earn money a little of which may be donated to children's home  as you mentioned like this:-

* Mr. Kareem Mohammad is a well-wisher as he donates money - from time to time - to our children's home.

(2) Should we do the 6-hour kiirtan and feast at the inauguration of this slaughterhouse or not?

  No, we should not participate in the feast and do kiirtan for inauguration of slaughterhouse , this will go against our basic principles of philosophy. Kiirtan is done for purification of mind and environment hence by doing this  Kiirtan if Mr. Kareem Mohammad purifies his mind and leaves the idea to inaugurate slaughterhouse  than it may be permitted. To be a well-wisher of AM is good but to be an Anandmargi is better. Since he is not margi there is no bound to do kirtan and take feast at the inauguration of his slaughterhouse.

Again you also quoted following idea:-

Then supporters of the program gave this counter response. Our Ananda Marga Caryacarya does not support the annual death day ceremony and the feast of that ceremony, i.e. shraddhanna. But even then we do kiirtan and eat at such programs because the kiirtan purifies everything. So why not do kiirtan and eat at the slaughterhouse and enjoy a feast there.


Such suggestion  can be given and supported by those  who have  only interest in enjoying delicious feast and not saving the lives of innocents. Will this not be like giving licence to kill innocent animals in exchange of doing six hours kiirtan and delicious feast?

Thus it is clear that we should not go against our basic principles in greed of a feast or loosing a well-wisher. We should keep the idea to have "shuddhodan" only i.e. the food that is earned with purity of mind, word and deed .

Respectfully,
Dr T R Sukul


Here is response #3:


No.

[We should not participate.]

- Anonymous


Here is response #4:


Stupid question.
Although, no doubt, kirtan is super powerful,we, margiis, cannot support, ideologically, this kind of events.
Namaskar
Rajesh



Here is response #5:

Namaskar,

Is Mr. Mohammed wanting kiirtan to absolve him from the reaction of his actions?   That wrong idea should not be supported. 

- Anonymous


Here is response #6:


BABA

Namaskar.

When I first read this posting I said to myself, 'Is this for real?' "Can this really be happening?" If it is genuine then it is just another instance of people not be fully established in their sadhana. This is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard paralleling the continual practice of MPD.

Wise up people! You are Ananda Margiis! Act like it! Do your sadhana more and more. Then you will see your mistakes to compromise your ideals to accommodate a tamasic brother who happens to sympathize with us from time to time by donating money. Let us not ignore our Ideology just to get more money or not to hurt this non-Margii brother's feelings.

Please, please, please. Come to your senses! There is no accounts where Baba condoned such a thing. In fact, there is a Baba story where while on Tour in India He did not want to stay in a hotel because of the non-sentient environment and He asked His PA to find a margii to host Him.

By His Grace, the margiis of the unit in question will come to their senses and realize that to follow 16 points and dharma we must not forsake Baba's Ideology that He taught us for so many years. Let us muster up the strength to assert our beliefs and the way to do that is do perform more of our spiritual practices and ideate on Him. Besides, didn't He once say that a sadhu is one who say, if I may paraphrase: "Just as I value my own life, other living beings also value their own lives?" Let us honor the animals who cannot speak up for themselves. It is one of the 16 points to serve animals. He has given us a chance to check that one off on our 16 points chart; let us not miss the glorious opportunity to serve Him.

Baba Nam Kevalam.

Vyasa

And Many More Letters:

And many others responded with similar logic and reasoning in opposition to participating in the kiirtan program at the inauguration of the slaughterhouse. So the above neatly encapsulates the prevailing those for those who opposed the kiirtan program

== Section 2 ==

Links

Here is a link to the initial letter on this topic:

http://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/2014/10/dispute-in-unit-need-your-suggestion.html


Here is a link to responses by those who supported the kiirtan / slaughterhouse program:

http://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/2014/11/re-dispute-in-unit-need-your-suggestion.html

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