Baba
Namaskar,
Some say that if a person has committed egregious errors, and that individual has already died, then their actions should not be analysed or reviewed. We can find the correct answer to this issue in Sadguru Baba’s own example and teachings. And that is what is discussed below.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Society would not have gotten the lesson
Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji has taken advent as the third Mahasambhuti on this earth. Parama Purusa takes human form when the situation is dire and He comes to give guidance for how to progress. During the Mahabharata era, society entered into a period of great trial and transition. Mahasambhuti Lord Krsna took birth to guide the masses. By knowing who opposed Him and who supported Him, the general public learned a lot. For instance, if no one had written about Duryodhana, Dronacarya, or Bhiisma, then society would not have gotten the lesson about their sinful dealings. People would not have learned that they should not behave in this way.
On this matter, Baba carefully evaluated the character of those leaders from the Mahabharata era, and in turn society was greatly benefited. So recording the history and educating people about the past holds great importance. This time also, with the advent of Mahasambhuti Lord Shrii Shrii Anandamurti ji, it is of tremendous value to delineate who supported Him and who opposed or deserted Him. By getting the how’s and why’s, i.e. the full picture, humanity will learn vital lessons. People cannot learn by theories alone - examples are needed, both good and bad. So everything must be included in the historical record.
If history is not written, a dangerous cycle emerges - the ensuing generations make the same mistakes as their forefathers. They do not get the opportunity to learn. That is why history is preserved in various forms - museums, books, photographs, artifacts etc. Both the glorious and infamous tales are collected and preserved. After all, human life is comprised of both good and bad actions and by knowing how people conducted themselves in the past, society advances. In our Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha, if we swipe away large swaths of history and just keep record of a few rosy incidents, then the present and future generations will be at a terrible disadvantage. People will not get scope to learn from those past experiences.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Dark & bright: both sides of history are important
When we talk about how Baba was in jail and how those demonic forces wanted to burn and destroy Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha, then the question arises: What did those Ananda Margiis do? How did they respond? What pitfalls did they meet and how did they overcome the obstacles? The Emergency period is an important aspect of our Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha history. It is a step-by-step tool for how to handle adversity and deal with challenging circumstances. We know negative forces attacked and harmed AMPS. Then we also have to tell what happened within our Marga. Who stayed - who left - how did common margiis and Wts survive. Similar trials are bound to crop up in the future.
With the spread of Ananda Marga teachings and the advancement of Prout, margiis will face opposition from the status quo - and many will leave. When Prout becomes a greater force in society then those Prout leaders and social revolutionaries will have to overcome tremendous adversities. In that case, it will be useful for them to know how in the past Ananda Margiis dealt with similar conditions in their day. That history will be very useful for them. Those who persevere and keep the saffron flag upright should have access to the full history. This will give them insight and inspiration, and it will also serve as a roadmap for how to proceed. History is an important tool and it should be duly noted. That is also why Baba has given a special discourse on the need to keep a full historical record of the various events etc. Because that serves as an excellent teaching tool and reference for future generations.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Margiis should know who deserted & who fought
With regards to the Mahabharata era of more than 3,500 years ago, Sadguru Baba has recounted in detail the actions of Duryodhana, Dronacarya, and Bhiishma etc. He did not refrain from telling their story because they had died thousands of years ago. Rather for the welfare of society, Baba outlined the details of key incidents in their lives as regards the battle for dharma etc. As Ananda Margiis, we have benefited tremendously from these stories and teachings. Anyone who reads Baba’s book - Discourses on the Mahabharata - will get numerous important life lessons and learn how to stay true to dharma in times of adversity. Same is the case by reviewing the actions and moments of those margiis and Wts who lived through the Emergency period. By this way so much is learned: How some remained true to Baba and how others betrayed Him. So there is no question of not recounting that history because some of those people have since died.
Some say that since Baba pardoned those deserters then one must no longer talk about that period. Yet by portraying how people erred and how Baba graciously pardoned them, then one gets the teaching how and when to pardon others. So the historical record is rich with teaching for all - no matter who you are. Let us also bear in mind that Baba pardoned Kalicharan the murderer who became Kalikananda the avadhuta. Thus Baba pardoned him and recounted the history for all to know. So just because someone was pardoned does not mean that their history could not or should not be told.
Valmiki was a robber who became a great poet and saint. Yet Baba does not hide or cover up Valmiki’s past. Rather by learning about who Valmiki was and what he became, the common people gain a lot of inspiration.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Conclusion
In AMPS, so many tragedies happened:
A) Various dogmas have been introduced;
B) Bhukti Pradhana rights have been curtailed;
C) Innocent wt's have been expelled;
D) Baba's holy teachings have been altered;
E) AMPS has been divided, etc.
The names and actions of those who committed such black deeds should be recorded in AMPS history. People should get scope to learn from this history, so that a similar tragedy may be avoided in the future. This is what Ananda Marga philosophy teaches us. If someone committed egregious errors, regardless of whether the person has already died or is still living, their actions should be analysed and reviewed. That will be beneficial and suited towards the welfare of all.
Namaskar,
in Him,
Karmayogii
~ In-depth study ~
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “The annals of human history should show which communities brought about which amount of progress and prosperity in which area of social life and in which part of the world – only such significant events are worthy of being recorded. History should also maintain special records of the trials and
tribulations which confronted human beings, how those trials and tribulations were overcome, how human beings tackled the numerous obstacles to effect greater social development, and so on. Only such history would I call the complete history or complete cultural history of the human race.” (1)
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “I suggest that in the writing of history there should be a radical change. The history written so far is a history of kings and monarchs. It should be thoroughly overhauled and completely rewritten – rewritten in the interest of humanity and the universal well-being of the human race. If the chronicles of history merely describe who succeeded to the throne and when, who plundered the neighbouring countries or kingdom, and who became a minister, they will be of no importance whatsoever, nor, indeed, of any interest to the common masses. If human beings are to profit from the study of the annals of history, they must reflect the weal and the woe, the hopes and aspirations of the masses.” (2)
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “While writing history we will have to consider the various spheres of human life and ensure that proper directions are given for the development of each sphere. For instance, history should focus upon the prevalent educational system, cultural standards, thoughts and ideas, dress, the social condition of women, the role of women in the social and economic spheres, and the socio-economic conditions of the weak and backward communities of the society of a particular age, etc. If any of these aspects are omitted while writing history, it will be incomplete….you should write a new history of the human race by your collective endeavour. The history that you will write in future must unequivocally reflect such important factors as how human society has evolved through trials and tribulations; what difficulties were confronted and how human beings overcame them and moved towards their goal with firm steps; and how even today they are advancing by solving numerous problems.” (3)
References
1. A Few Problems Solved - 4, Let History Be Rewritten
2. A Few Problems Solved - 4, Let History Be Rewritten
3. A Few Problems Solved - 4, What Should History Be Like?
Special grace to have Baba dreams
Svapne táre dekhechinu
Svapne hálo paricay
Svapne bhála besechinu
Dekhechinu premamay.
[I saw Him in a dream
In dream I made His acquaintance,
In dream I loved Him,
I called to Him, “O Lord full of love.”]
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “In the lives of many people, a time may come when their days are full of the thorns of miseries, but at night, during dream, they transcend their pains and pleasures. Then, meeting their Iśt́a in dream, they beam with joy and laughter in the ocean of bliss. All the sufferings and sorrows of their lives, great or small, merge into that indescribable ocean of bliss. Those who experience this type of dream are truly fortunate. It is they who can say,”
Cokhe dekhá pái náko
Dekhá hay mane mane
Se milan sundara
Sakala duhkhahara
Svapne báṋciyá tháki
Bhule tháki jágarańe.
[I do not see Him with my eyes,
I see Him in my mind;
In that beautiful meeting,
All sorrows disappear;
In dream I am alive –
In waking, I forget.]
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “Even in the waking state their lives are drenched in the drowsy sweetness of that dreamy atmosphere, and then in their lives, that dream becomes a reality. As a result, the waking state for them becomes meaningless.”
“Then cannot those dreamy persons do any good to the society? Yes, certainly they can, and in a better way. This state of drowsiness is not dullness or crudeness; rather it is the golden opportunity to fully utilize one’s existence by touching the feet of Táraka Brahma, as long as there is life.” (1)
Reference
1. Namah Shivaya Shantaya, Shiva's Teachings – 2 (continued) (Discourse 16)
Re: India: “श्रद्धेय shraddhey” dogma & PP
कम से कम श्रध्ये पे चर्चा करते करते आपने कम से कम Ac. Vishavdeva Nand जी को पुरोधा प्रमुख तो माना ।
दूसरी बात श्रध्ये या आदरणीय किसी व्यक्ति विशेष को नहीं अर्थात वो respect , Mr. XYZ के लिए नहीं होता है वो RESPECT उस पोस्ट को है । पुरोधा एक काफी महत्वपूर्ण पद है जिसकी तुलना या ANALYSIS आसान नहीं है । जब पुरोधा का इतना IMPORTANCE है तो अवश्य ही पुरोधा प्रमुख का पद / POST श्रध्ये है।
आज आपने जो POINT यहाँ उठाया है उसका एक मात्र कारण है उस पद के साथ JUSTICE नहीं होना। पुरोधा का IMPORTANCE पूज्य बाबा ने दिया है। लेकिन यहाँ आज के वर्तमान में सत्ता भोगियों ने इस महान आदर्शगत पोस्ट को सिर्फ एक वोट बैंक बना डाला है , पुरोधा या पुरोधा प्रमुख आज एक आदर्शगत पद न होकर राजनितिक पद हो गया है।
आज के वर्तमान के पुरोधा को पुरोधा मानना ही पाप है , कुछ पुरोधा तो ऐसे हैं जिन्हें आचार्य / अवधूत या एक आनन्द मार्गी मानना भी पाप है ।
हेमन्त
राँची
---
Re: India: “श्रद्धेय shraddhey” dogma & PP
Namaskar,
Some believe that postholders should be revered. This is the dogmatic idea held by various organisations like RSS idea. They respect and salute the dress or the post not the person. But in Ananda Marga, the main thing is ideological conduct. Without proper conduct, one is not worthy of respect.
Ananda Vanii states, “Your ideal is represented by your conduct. Your learning, your social or economic status have nothing to do with your ideal.” (Ananda Vanii #13)
Wt conduct rules: “Workers should have the dignity of labour and not the dignity of post. They have nothing to do with promotion, demotion or reversion.” (Point #33 of 27 Workers Rules)
In Him,
Liiladhar
- Here is a link to the initial letter on this topic - India: “श्रद्धेय shraddhey” dogma & PP
Kiirtana & gandharvaloka
Baba says, "The following describes how and to what degree human beings are aware about their own unit consciousness (Shiva'tma). As well as how they come in contact with their shiva'tma."
"For example, it is just like when one looks in the mirror then one does not see their real self, but rather a reflection of that. Or it is similar to when one awakens from a deep sleep then they can recall only part of their dream, and some aspects of their dream they cannot remember. Or perhaps, more precisely, they can only remember a reflection of their dream-- and not the dream itself."
"In contrast, there are other occasions where one looks at their own reflection in the water and they can clearly see their reflected image. But still that is not one's entire being. It remains but a reflection. Just like if one sees a reflection of a mango in the water then that is just a reflection and not the real mango."
"In reality only we come in contact with our unit consciousness when we sing kiirtan and some bliss comes. Then we come in contact with our shiva'tma."
"So in the spiritual field one comes in contact with their own unit consciousness after singing spiritually vibrated music like kiirtan or bhajans. For this reason, such type of devotional chanting or singing is highly essential in the life of a sadhaka. And when one comes in momentary contact with their own unit consciousness while singing kiirtan this is known as Ghandharva loka. One can only feel the bliss of kiirtan when their mind reaches into Ghandharva loka." (1)
Reference
1. Shabda Cayanika -26
Niilkantha Divas - 12 Feb 2020
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If the wrongdoer dies then...
Namaskar,
Some say that if a person has committed egregious errors, and that individual has already died, then their actions should not be analysed or reviewed. We can find the correct answer to this issue in Sadguru Baba’s own example and teachings. And that is what is discussed below.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Society would not have gotten the lesson
Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji has taken advent as the third Mahasambhuti on this earth. Parama Purusa takes human form when the situation is dire and He comes to give guidance for how to progress. During the Mahabharata era, society entered into a period of great trial and transition. Mahasambhuti Lord Krsna took birth to guide the masses. By knowing who opposed Him and who supported Him, the general public learned a lot. For instance, if no one had written about Duryodhana, Dronacarya, or Bhiisma, then society would not have gotten the lesson about their sinful dealings. People would not have learned that they should not behave in this way.
On this matter, Baba carefully evaluated the character of those leaders from the Mahabharata era, and in turn society was greatly benefited. So recording the history and educating people about the past holds great importance. This time also, with the advent of Mahasambhuti Lord Shrii Shrii Anandamurti ji, it is of tremendous value to delineate who supported Him and who opposed or deserted Him. By getting the how’s and why’s, i.e. the full picture, humanity will learn vital lessons. People cannot learn by theories alone - examples are needed, both good and bad. So everything must be included in the historical record.
If history is not written, a dangerous cycle emerges - the ensuing generations make the same mistakes as their forefathers. They do not get the opportunity to learn. That is why history is preserved in various forms - museums, books, photographs, artifacts etc. Both the glorious and infamous tales are collected and preserved. After all, human life is comprised of both good and bad actions and by knowing how people conducted themselves in the past, society advances. In our Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha, if we swipe away large swaths of history and just keep record of a few rosy incidents, then the present and future generations will be at a terrible disadvantage. People will not get scope to learn from those past experiences.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Dark & bright: both sides of history are important
When we talk about how Baba was in jail and how those demonic forces wanted to burn and destroy Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha, then the question arises: What did those Ananda Margiis do? How did they respond? What pitfalls did they meet and how did they overcome the obstacles? The Emergency period is an important aspect of our Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha history. It is a step-by-step tool for how to handle adversity and deal with challenging circumstances. We know negative forces attacked and harmed AMPS. Then we also have to tell what happened within our Marga. Who stayed - who left - how did common margiis and Wts survive. Similar trials are bound to crop up in the future.
With the spread of Ananda Marga teachings and the advancement of Prout, margiis will face opposition from the status quo - and many will leave. When Prout becomes a greater force in society then those Prout leaders and social revolutionaries will have to overcome tremendous adversities. In that case, it will be useful for them to know how in the past Ananda Margiis dealt with similar conditions in their day. That history will be very useful for them. Those who persevere and keep the saffron flag upright should have access to the full history. This will give them insight and inspiration, and it will also serve as a roadmap for how to proceed. History is an important tool and it should be duly noted. That is also why Baba has given a special discourse on the need to keep a full historical record of the various events etc. Because that serves as an excellent teaching tool and reference for future generations.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Margiis should know who deserted & who fought
With regards to the Mahabharata era of more than 3,500 years ago, Sadguru Baba has recounted in detail the actions of Duryodhana, Dronacarya, and Bhiishma etc. He did not refrain from telling their story because they had died thousands of years ago. Rather for the welfare of society, Baba outlined the details of key incidents in their lives as regards the battle for dharma etc. As Ananda Margiis, we have benefited tremendously from these stories and teachings. Anyone who reads Baba’s book - Discourses on the Mahabharata - will get numerous important life lessons and learn how to stay true to dharma in times of adversity. Same is the case by reviewing the actions and moments of those margiis and Wts who lived through the Emergency period. By this way so much is learned: How some remained true to Baba and how others betrayed Him. So there is no question of not recounting that history because some of those people have since died.
Some say that since Baba pardoned those deserters then one must no longer talk about that period. Yet by portraying how people erred and how Baba graciously pardoned them, then one gets the teaching how and when to pardon others. So the historical record is rich with teaching for all - no matter who you are. Let us also bear in mind that Baba pardoned Kalicharan the murderer who became Kalikananda the avadhuta. Thus Baba pardoned him and recounted the history for all to know. So just because someone was pardoned does not mean that their history could not or should not be told.
Valmiki was a robber who became a great poet and saint. Yet Baba does not hide or cover up Valmiki’s past. Rather by learning about who Valmiki was and what he became, the common people gain a lot of inspiration.
https://anandamargauniversal.blogspot.com/
Conclusion
In AMPS, so many tragedies happened:
A) Various dogmas have been introduced;
B) Bhukti Pradhana rights have been curtailed;
C) Innocent wt's have been expelled;
D) Baba's holy teachings have been altered;
E) AMPS has been divided, etc.
The names and actions of those who committed such black deeds should be recorded in AMPS history. People should get scope to learn from this history, so that a similar tragedy may be avoided in the future. This is what Ananda Marga philosophy teaches us. If someone committed egregious errors, regardless of whether the person has already died or is still living, their actions should be analysed and reviewed. That will be beneficial and suited towards the welfare of all.
Namaskar,
in Him,
Karmayogii
~ In-depth study ~
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “The annals of human history should show which communities brought about which amount of progress and prosperity in which area of social life and in which part of the world – only such significant events are worthy of being recorded. History should also maintain special records of the trials and
tribulations which confronted human beings, how those trials and tribulations were overcome, how human beings tackled the numerous obstacles to effect greater social development, and so on. Only such history would I call the complete history or complete cultural history of the human race.” (1)
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “I suggest that in the writing of history there should be a radical change. The history written so far is a history of kings and monarchs. It should be thoroughly overhauled and completely rewritten – rewritten in the interest of humanity and the universal well-being of the human race. If the chronicles of history merely describe who succeeded to the throne and when, who plundered the neighbouring countries or kingdom, and who became a minister, they will be of no importance whatsoever, nor, indeed, of any interest to the common masses. If human beings are to profit from the study of the annals of history, they must reflect the weal and the woe, the hopes and aspirations of the masses.” (2)
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “While writing history we will have to consider the various spheres of human life and ensure that proper directions are given for the development of each sphere. For instance, history should focus upon the prevalent educational system, cultural standards, thoughts and ideas, dress, the social condition of women, the role of women in the social and economic spheres, and the socio-economic conditions of the weak and backward communities of the society of a particular age, etc. If any of these aspects are omitted while writing history, it will be incomplete….you should write a new history of the human race by your collective endeavour. The history that you will write in future must unequivocally reflect such important factors as how human society has evolved through trials and tribulations; what difficulties were confronted and how human beings overcame them and moved towards their goal with firm steps; and how even today they are advancing by solving numerous problems.” (3)
References
1. A Few Problems Solved - 4, Let History Be Rewritten
2. A Few Problems Solved - 4, Let History Be Rewritten
3. A Few Problems Solved - 4, What Should History Be Like?
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The below sections are entirely different topics, unrelated to the above material.
They stand on their own as points of interest.
* * *
== Section 2: Important Teaching ==
The below sections are entirely different topics, unrelated to the above material.
They stand on their own as points of interest.
* * *
== Section 2: Important Teaching ==
Special grace to have Baba dreams
Svapne táre dekhechinu
Svapne hálo paricay
Svapne bhála besechinu
Dekhechinu premamay.
[I saw Him in a dream
In dream I made His acquaintance,
In dream I loved Him,
I called to Him, “O Lord full of love.”]
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “In the lives of many people, a time may come when their days are full of the thorns of miseries, but at night, during dream, they transcend their pains and pleasures. Then, meeting their Iśt́a in dream, they beam with joy and laughter in the ocean of bliss. All the sufferings and sorrows of their lives, great or small, merge into that indescribable ocean of bliss. Those who experience this type of dream are truly fortunate. It is they who can say,”
Cokhe dekhá pái náko
Dekhá hay mane mane
Se milan sundara
Sakala duhkhahara
Svapne báṋciyá tháki
Bhule tháki jágarańe.
[I do not see Him with my eyes,
I see Him in my mind;
In that beautiful meeting,
All sorrows disappear;
In dream I am alive –
In waking, I forget.]
Ananda Marga philosophy states, “Even in the waking state their lives are drenched in the drowsy sweetness of that dreamy atmosphere, and then in their lives, that dream becomes a reality. As a result, the waking state for them becomes meaningless.”
“Then cannot those dreamy persons do any good to the society? Yes, certainly they can, and in a better way. This state of drowsiness is not dullness or crudeness; rather it is the golden opportunity to fully utilize one’s existence by touching the feet of Táraka Brahma, as long as there is life.” (1)
Reference
1. Namah Shivaya Shantaya, Shiva's Teachings – 2 (continued) (Discourse 16)
== Section: Comments ==
Re: India: “श्रद्धेय shraddhey” dogma & PP
कम से कम श्रध्ये पे चर्चा करते करते आपने कम से कम Ac. Vishavdeva Nand जी को पुरोधा प्रमुख तो माना ।
दूसरी बात श्रध्ये या आदरणीय किसी व्यक्ति विशेष को नहीं अर्थात वो respect , Mr. XYZ के लिए नहीं होता है वो RESPECT उस पोस्ट को है । पुरोधा एक काफी महत्वपूर्ण पद है जिसकी तुलना या ANALYSIS आसान नहीं है । जब पुरोधा का इतना IMPORTANCE है तो अवश्य ही पुरोधा प्रमुख का पद / POST श्रध्ये है।
आज आपने जो POINT यहाँ उठाया है उसका एक मात्र कारण है उस पद के साथ JUSTICE नहीं होना। पुरोधा का IMPORTANCE पूज्य बाबा ने दिया है। लेकिन यहाँ आज के वर्तमान में सत्ता भोगियों ने इस महान आदर्शगत पोस्ट को सिर्फ एक वोट बैंक बना डाला है , पुरोधा या पुरोधा प्रमुख आज एक आदर्शगत पद न होकर राजनितिक पद हो गया है।
आज के वर्तमान के पुरोधा को पुरोधा मानना ही पाप है , कुछ पुरोधा तो ऐसे हैं जिन्हें आचार्य / अवधूत या एक आनन्द मार्गी मानना भी पाप है ।
हेमन्त
राँची
---
Re: India: “श्रद्धेय shraddhey” dogma & PP
Namaskar,
Some believe that postholders should be revered. This is the dogmatic idea held by various organisations like RSS idea. They respect and salute the dress or the post not the person. But in Ananda Marga, the main thing is ideological conduct. Without proper conduct, one is not worthy of respect.
Ananda Vanii states, “Your ideal is represented by your conduct. Your learning, your social or economic status have nothing to do with your ideal.” (Ananda Vanii #13)
Wt conduct rules: “Workers should have the dignity of labour and not the dignity of post. They have nothing to do with promotion, demotion or reversion.” (Point #33 of 27 Workers Rules)
In Him,
Liiladhar
- Here is a link to the initial letter on this topic - India: “श्रद्धेय shraddhey” dogma & PP
== Section: Important Teaching ==
Kiirtana & gandharvaloka
Baba says, "The following describes how and to what degree human beings are aware about their own unit consciousness (Shiva'tma). As well as how they come in contact with their shiva'tma."
"For example, it is just like when one looks in the mirror then one does not see their real self, but rather a reflection of that. Or it is similar to when one awakens from a deep sleep then they can recall only part of their dream, and some aspects of their dream they cannot remember. Or perhaps, more precisely, they can only remember a reflection of their dream-- and not the dream itself."
"In contrast, there are other occasions where one looks at their own reflection in the water and they can clearly see their reflected image. But still that is not one's entire being. It remains but a reflection. Just like if one sees a reflection of a mango in the water then that is just a reflection and not the real mango."
"In reality only we come in contact with our unit consciousness when we sing kiirtan and some bliss comes. Then we come in contact with our shiva'tma."
"So in the spiritual field one comes in contact with their own unit consciousness after singing spiritually vibrated music like kiirtan or bhajans. For this reason, such type of devotional chanting or singing is highly essential in the life of a sadhaka. And when one comes in momentary contact with their own unit consciousness while singing kiirtan this is known as Ghandharva loka. One can only feel the bliss of kiirtan when their mind reaches into Ghandharva loka." (1)
Reference
1. Shabda Cayanika -26
== Section 3: Links ==
Niilkantha Divas - 12 Feb 2020
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